Well, I'll stand by my community distinction (by which none of the professional texts Livia collected are fanfic)
That's where I put my emphasis as well, of course. It's the best way to make a conceptual analysis, insofar as that includes pretty much all of the clear cases and excludes most of the problematic ones.
And of course the way the analytic philosophers in my premise respond to objections is by adding caveats (my prof called them "epicycles," I think) and then caveats to the caveats....
but I should acknowledge your scifi community issues
They're really not my issues; they came up in the conversations themselves. I see from the tracked comments in my inbox you've already found the comments made in liviapenn's journal re: the community aspect of the litfic establishment, and kradical and dduane were arguing against the claim that community could be seen as a final distinction between writing Star Trek fanfic and writing tie-ins.
Of course, just because it's a community doesn't automatically mean it is ours (although they are, sometimes), so a sense of continuity with past fanfic communities might be all one really needs to make the distinction.
Then again, I'm not trying to establish categories of inclusion/exclusion and rather attempt to look at aspects that seem more pronounced in fanfic maybe?
Yes, it's important not to go to the other extreme and assume that because a community account, or a gender account, or a how-this-engages-with-the-text functional account can't cover all the cases we'd intuitively think of as fanfiction they don't have anything worthwhile to say about the genre. (I think we could both imagine people making that sort of claim.)
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Well, I'll stand by my community distinction (by which none of the professional texts Livia collected are fanfic)
That's where I put my emphasis as well, of course. It's the best way to make a conceptual analysis, insofar as that includes pretty much all of the clear cases and excludes most of the problematic ones.
And of course the way the analytic philosophers in my premise respond to objections is by adding caveats (my prof called them "epicycles," I think) and then caveats to the caveats....
but I should acknowledge your scifi community issues
They're really not my issues; they came up in the conversations themselves. I see from the tracked comments in my inbox you've already found the comments made in
Of course, just because it's a community doesn't automatically mean it is ours (although they are, sometimes), so a sense of continuity with past fanfic communities might be all one really needs to make the distinction.
Then again, I'm not trying to establish categories of inclusion/exclusion and rather attempt to look at aspects that seem more pronounced in fanfic maybe?
Yes, it's important not to go to the other extreme and assume that because a community account, or a gender account, or a how-this-engages-with-the-text functional account can't cover all the cases we'd intuitively think of as fanfiction they don't have anything worthwhile to say about the genre. (I think we could both imagine people making that sort of claim.)