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Dec. 9th, 2007 08:34 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Comment here and ask me ANYTHING about any fandom I'm involved in/have been involved in. Controversial or innocent, silly or serious, ask and you'll get my honest opinion on the subject [to the best of myknowledge/ability]. General fandom questions are also allowed, but nothing about actual people IN fandom, please.
I'm not quite sure what that last phrase is supposed to mean. I think it means I won't answer questions about people on my flist, like Elizabeth or Samantha or Ari or Grace? I'm not sure why people would be asking me such questions in the first place, though.
I'm not quite sure what that last phrase is supposed to mean. I think it means I won't answer questions about people on my flist, like Elizabeth or Samantha or Ari or Grace? I'm not sure why people would be asking me such questions in the first place, though.
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Date: 2007-12-10 01:41 am (UTC)Er.
+Why don't I like comics (as a medium) as much as everyone else seems to?
+What book do you wish would be made into (another) movie, and starring whom?
+Do you have any other thoughts on transferring stories/characters from one medium to another?
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Date: 2007-12-10 02:30 am (UTC)Hmm. I haven't often thought about comics as a medium. I can't think of anything about comics as a medium that I particularly like. I mean, they have pictures which is nice and books don't, and they can be more manageable than TV and film because of the physicality of turning the page. But really, they're just the medium of providing me a story about 616!Kitty or Ult!Kitty or Kara or Linda or Nico or whomever, and the only thing that would be less good if they were a TV show would be that it would take longer to watch them than to read them, and I couldn't just flip to the scene I wanted to check up on something.
Now, I could see the argument that comics as a community has come to produce certain types of stories that I like, which is certainly true when one takes "superhero stories" as a broad category. And the way that comics have to be constantly re-interpreting a huge amount of canon make them similar to fanfic in a way I like. But the fact is that I'm just as often reading for something different than Marvel/DC assumes their (male) readers are looking for; Spiderman <3's Mary-Jane is the exception, not the rule.
I like comics because it has awesome female characters with superpowers--and it occurs to me that superpowers aren't a kink for you the way that they are for me.
I'm going to hit submit and then think about the movie adaptation questions for a while.
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Date: 2007-12-10 03:57 am (UTC)I am completely butting in on a question that wasn't addressed to me so pardon but. . .obviously, the comics medium, like any medium, isn't going to appeal to everyone in the same way. But I do think that reading more comics, and reading more good comics, and learning about the craft does help to appreciate what makes them work. I think the thing that I read that was the first real eye-opening breakthrough for me was Maximum Fantastic Four. I got this out of the library, so you might be able to find one as well. This breaks down the first issue of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's Fantastic Four, explains why it was such a watershed in comics (and in popular culture).
If you're looking for something with a more theoretical focus, Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics is generally considered the definitive work in the field.
OK, sorry for babbling in something that wasn't addressed to me!
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Date: 2007-12-10 11:39 am (UTC)I wish we could stop having adaptations in the sense we have now, which invites all sorts of purist bitching, and have something closer to fanfic, in which the way one is revisioning the original story is honest and in the open. Comic book adaptations probably come the closest--not only are the origin stories updated, but a lot of the plots have to be completely original to the movie, and the canon has to be simplified in a process that makes adapting War and Peace look easy. That doesn't mean film adaptations can't be canon whorish, but it does recognize that they'll never be the same as the original book or whatnot, and that's okay.
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Date: 2007-12-10 04:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-12-10 04:18 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-12-10 04:19 am (UTC)So -- tell me what's awesome about Supergirl and why you were inspired to write about her!
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Date: 2007-12-10 04:53 am (UTC)It's no secret that a large deal of what I'm interested in superhero comics is their treatment of adolescence, because I find the drive to will-to-poweriness in superhero comics to be part of an adolescent fantasy. So I'm interested in the X-Men titles which focus on the school; in Peter, MJ, and Kitty going to high school together in Ultimateverse; in the Homecoming antics of Spiderman <3s Mary-Jane; etc.
With reference to post-Crisis Kara Zor-El, the Supergirl fits into this scheme extremely well; even what is problematic about the character, like her skanky fashion sense, make perfect sense within this context (which isn't enough to justify them, exactly, but it is better than if she's being a sex object for no in-story reason at all). I love her for how she's having trouble trying to fit in, how her angst is so teenager-y and self-destructive, how we know she will eventually perseve through it and thus can keep hope alive. Supergirl #9 is an incredible issue for all this, IMHO. There's something delicious about Supergirl in a bellyshirt (Kon's old shirt, altered!), with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other.
So in some ways, Supergirl is awesome for not being awesome. She's a flawed, broken teenaged girl (and the IC/52/WWIII/1yrlater stuff just makes it worst, I think, although she's temporarily improved when she's in the 31st century and part of the team, but those types of temporal hijinks will never fit into continuity completely comfortably) and I love her for that, in somewhat the same way I love the Torchwood team.
It's occurred to me that much of Kara's problem is that there's no Superwoman (although Karen really should be filling that role). Nobody ever really expected Kon to be Superman, so he got to be a fun-loving teenager: wise-cracking, wearing a costume which consisted of jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers, etc. Kara doesn't get that: she wears a uniform which is a feminized version of Kal's and never gets a chance to be a kid. And she crashes and burns as a result, and it is so much fun to watch.
Now if only there were more Kara/Barbara and Kara/Linda fics....
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Date: 2007-12-10 11:33 am (UTC)I'd been wanting to write Kara/Barbara for a while now, because Kara's adolescent vulnerability is the perfect object for Oracle's omniscient eye. And it'd be hot. Kara sort of lends herself to all kinds of hot power imbalances. Plus maybe something psychoanalytic about adolescent sexuality becoming mastered by the rational mind?
And when I read Peter David's Many Happy Returns, which is all about the homosocial relationship and love between two Supergirls--Linda Danvers and the pre-Crisis Kara--and just its incredible depth, I just couldn't not introduce Linda to the new Kara.
I'm still working on a continuation of "Up, Up, and Away." The two Supergirls have so much to teach each other. Plus, if I work at it, I have no doubt I can make them kiss.
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Date: 2007-12-10 06:17 pm (UTC)That, in a nutshell, is why the DCU is so overwhelmingly slash-friendly. ;)