Yes, "everything is X" certainly entails "there is no not-X"--and _peasant's comments above underscore for me that what we mean by "is" there will have ideological anti/foundations and implications. Il n'ya a pas de hors-texte.
My experience with the RPF I've written (and read) is very similar to yours. Although I could rip the audio files of the commentaries of some of my favorite episodes and put that in a box and design box art if I wanted to.
it's just not as easily collected and pointed to.
Like comics fandom, or Doctor Who? Even that isn't unique to RPF! And as extratextuality goes mainstream, is likely to seem less and a meaningful difference as time goes on. Canons are always constructed and negotiated by fen; I don't treat the Buffy season 8 comics as canon, but some do.
i saw no problem with RPF fandoms being included in a definition of "transformative works" but I'm certainly not up to date on the OTW's definition of what it is they are wanting to include in the definition of "media fandom".
We're in agreement here; indeed, I get very frustrated by the insistence rising out of that discussion that RPF is always(-already? it seems so, although hector_rashbaum would never put it that way) separated from FPF media fandom. That portions of it developed independenttly, I can well believe, but Jensen/Jared, or my Jossverse RPF? I don't think so. And I certainly think that RPF is transformative. (But then, I think everything is transformative, and that "transformative" nonetheless remains a meaningful category.)
I don't think anyone is up to date on what OTW's definition is.
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Date: 2008-02-23 04:55 pm (UTC)My experience with the RPF I've written (and read) is very similar to yours. Although I could rip the audio files of the commentaries of some of my favorite episodes and put that in a box and design box art if I wanted to.
it's just not as easily collected and pointed to.
Like comics fandom, or Doctor Who? Even that isn't unique to RPF! And as extratextuality goes mainstream, is likely to seem less and a meaningful difference as time goes on. Canons are always constructed and negotiated by fen; I don't treat the Buffy season 8 comics as canon, but some do.
i saw no problem with RPF fandoms being included in a definition of "transformative works" but I'm certainly not up to date on the OTW's definition of what it is they are wanting to include in the definition of "media fandom".
We're in agreement here; indeed, I get very frustrated by the insistence rising out of that discussion that RPF is always(-already? it seems so, although
I don't think anyone is up to date on what OTW's definition is.