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Date: 2012-12-23 09:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
for what it's worth, I wasn't at the presentation. but the sidels strike me as an excellent example (ha!) of leading by example; a reminder to the community from others in the community of things to look for.Here's the thing. It *sucks* for our community that the people who are currently left out (women and people-of-color are at the top of the list here) are the ones who have to point out that hey dudes, we're being left out here! It's *awesome* that @skud has the tenacity and patience to keep telling a room full of people who don't really want to see (the 80%/20% graphic is pretty strong evidence here) that they should pay attention, but it's really *our* job, the guys' job, to notice that this is missing.Complaining that her chastising is making you uncomfortable is sorta saying I was *happy* when I didn't realize how exclusionary I was being how dare you mess with my bubble! and all that is a variant of the Tone Argument derailment: how can you be so *mean*? @skud is not chastising . She's asking, rather politely and remarkably patiently, to be included. (Rage and calls to burn the fucker down would be completely justified, IMHO Stallman's behavior and the couchdb debacle being particular cases-in-point.)Identifying the specific behaviors is really above and beyond the call of duty the duty is mostly ours, as people-of-privilege but it's welcome, because those are specific things *we* can watch for, in ourselves and in our IRC conversations and lists.
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