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For [livejournal.com profile] booster17:

Five Characters Who Don't Have Sisters But Should So They Can Make Out with Them

1. Bastain Balthazar Bux. I'll admit it, I love The Neverending Story III. For many reasons, really, but male/female step-sibling relationships have always interested me, even way back before I recognized myself as being attracted to girls. It's the sudden intimacy of having a girl thrust into your life not just as a friend, but as a sister. To have a sister you made out with thrust into your life would be most intimate of all, of course. I also remember this dynamic as appearing in the movie Gordy. Of course, this meme is for a sister, not a stepsister, but remembering the third movie immediately suggested him to me for this. He's all so alone after the death of his mother, after all, and would be so much happier if he had a sister to make out with.

2. Joan Girardi. Joan of Arcadia provides all sorts of wonderful opportunities for incest family dynamics, with Joan having an excellent father and two brothers at least one of whom I think is excellent (guess which one!), but sadly no chance for sister/sister interaction.

3. Cassidy Casablancas. Cassidy so needs a sister so he can make out with her. It'd be all twisty and will-to-powery, and they could be evil together.

4. River Tam. The potential for Crazy Space Incest increase exponentially when you add another Tam to the mix!

5. Veronica Mars. Again with already 'cesty family dynamics being dialed up, in this case possibly logarthmically.  

For [livejournal.com profile] wisdomeagle:

Five Characters Who Don't Have Brothers But Should So They Can Make Out With Them

1. Dawn Summers. I'm mainly thinking of [livejournal.com profile] annakovsky's "Les Cousins Dangereux" here, where the S4 AtS mindwipe makes everyone believe Conner is Dawn's brother.

2. Amy Madison. Can't you see the two of them? Brother and sister, playing together, eating brownies together, having sex together, doing black magic together, turning people into rats together.

3. Kitty Pryde. She needed to be on one of these lists, and she had a father in canon, so I ended up putting her here.

4. The Stepford Cuckoos. I think the sort of het male fantasy the Cuckoos embody (which isn't exactly my het male fantasy, but I appreciate the purity of the archetype) is well served by them having a single brother they habitually make out with.

5. Jack Harkness. I wanted a boy on the list.

Five Characters Who Don't Have Excellent Fathers But Should So They Can Make Out With Them

This list was hard to come up with. Often the types of characters to which I'm attracted tend to have fathers in canon.

1. Inara Serra. Preferably dirtybadwrong squcky politics of heterosexuality sex here, but then I guess he wouldn't be an "Excellent Father."

The next four can be loving Keith/Veronica-type relationships (eta: but don't have to be, since a couple would also make great dirtybadwrong pairings too): 
2. Faith.
3. Kennedy
4. Malcolm Reynolds
5. Gwen Cooper



Wow, that's a lot of fictional incest. All of which is specifically dreamt up to hit my kinks like whoa.

Erm.

. . .

I'll be in my bunk.

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Date: 2007-05-23 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alixtii.livejournal.com
I can't deny that fitting a loving father into canon seamlessly would be a very difficult thing.

I think that one could exhibit the fairly classic "lack of strong father figure" behavior while still having a loving father back at home, especially if we assume that Faith would still have come to Sunnydale, deliberately divorcing herself from her father. Add in her psychological instability, which could have any of a million causes. Teenagers don't really need a reason to rebel, do they?

Just because Faith made bad decisions doesn't mean she came from a broken family (or was lower class). I think it could happen to any of us.

Of course AU-happy-Faith/Excellent Father might be a perfectly good pairing too.

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Date: 2007-05-23 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com
Of course AU-happy-Faith/Excellent Father might be a perfectly good pairing too.

Well, at a certain point, something becomes AU enough to erase the essence of a character, which goes back to my original point that I don't think Faith with a happy childhood would BE Faith.

I don't recall that I actually made any comments about Faith's social class; anybody can have an absent/abusive/unsupportive father. Though Faith certainly projects an urban/working class image, which seems to be supported by the way she relates to Buffy and the mayor. It could be, of course, as put on as Spike's persona, and I've even tried to work with the idea of Faith as a slumming rich girl, but I found it didn't really work for me with the character.

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Date: 2007-05-23 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alixtii.livejournal.com
Well, at a certain point, something becomes AU enough to erase the essence of a character, which goes back to my original point that I don't think Faith with a happy childhood would BE Faith.

And I'm saying there that, IF one considers you to be correct, then then the not-Faith/her father might be an interesting pairing. I don't think you're right, but I don't think your being right would invalidate her placement on the list. Does that make sense?


I made the class comment parenthetical because you didn;t bring it up although I do think the two are parallel--that Faith could be doing the equivalent of "slumming it" in terms of her home life.

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