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The notion of "transformational" versus "affirmative" fandoms found via this metafandom'd post by [personal profile] damned_colonial is really a genius ones. What those two posts only really begin to come to terms with in the comments, though, is just how affirmational much of female-dominated LJ/DW-located media fanfiction fandom really is.

Which isn't a bad thing in and of itself--I'm down with loving things, really--except when it begins functioning as a normative standard. But I remember just how often during the Diana Gabaldon affair and the discussions which followed, how often it was put forward that fanficcers were doing what we do out of love, as if that should matter somehow, and how problematic it was, this implication that it'd be right for us to be ashamed of what we do if we did it--when we do it--out of hate or anger or merely mild interest or simply because we can, that it's only because it's being done out of love that what we do is okay. And I really can't begin to describe just how damaging that seems to me, how pernicious I find the notion that really, fanfiction ought to be celebratory.

(Also how every year everyone angsts so much on whether their remixee for [livejournal.com profile] remixredux will like the remix they write despite being repeatedly told that's not really the point.)

It's helpful, I think, to have names--and names which don't begin with "Cult of," although they do I think they map fairly neatly onto what in years past have been called the Cult of Nice and the Cult of Mean--for these strands of media fandom, because they better help understand the diversity of opinion on some subjects such as the role of warnings, about concrit, or about the appropriateness of writing fanfiction with/out (asking) permission. The affirmational school focuses on privileging authors (including fan authors of fanfic) and their feelings; the transformational school, on open discussion and critique.

If there's any doubt about my own allegience, it's with the latter school, which has a wonderful history of producing such wonderfully rich, "thick" (in the litcrit sense) texts such as [personal profile] helenish's Take Off Clothes as Directed which subverts assumption about the use of BDSM as a fanfic trope, or these stories which do something similar with genderswap tropes, or the hilariously wonderful J2 fic Common Knowledge. (Recs for more fics with fall more on the transformative rather than affirmational side of fandom are totally welcome in the comments.)

These do not really seem to be, insofar as I can tell, particularly gendered phenomenon, no matter how much we might like to wave them off as being such. (It's interesting to look at how our instinctive gendering of the Cult of Mean/Cult of Nice divide and of the Affirmational/Transformative divide are actually completely opposite.)

This seems to me to be linked somehow also to this meme of "Fandom is my fandom": the notion that insofar as (what we have been calling) transformative fandom is affirmational, it's affirmational not of a text or an author but of a community readers who are also authors (and vice versa), a group of online contacts, and perhaps most of all a set of values which promotes dialogue and dicussion, critical response and critique, and, well, transformation.

ETA: For some background/context on the Cult of Nice/Cult of Mean discussions, see this post by [personal profile] synecdochic.

Seen via metafandom link

Date: 2010-06-15 02:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Crap, I'm doing media-based fanfic wrong again.

Unless one considers my mocking of Ron Moore and David Eick's "re-imagined" series as "critical response" and that's only because they trashed the object of my fannish adoration for which I write fanfic because I do love it.

countess_baltar on LJ

Re: Seen via metafandom link

Date: 2010-06-15 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't have "massive amounts of ill will towards so much of contemporary fandom".

It's more of a "Get off my lawn" attitude triggered by that section of "contemporary fandom" that believes anyone who doesn't acknowledge K/S fanfic as the well-spring of fandom is "doing fandom wrong".

- CB

Re: Seen via metafandom link

Date: 2010-06-16 01:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lydiabell
Don't anybody light a match near that straw man!

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Date: 2012-05-05 12:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Colleen I've seen a few APA feuds, but you're right, it's nothing cpemarod to the non-stop flamewars on the net. In the past, U.F.O. members were encouraged to critique and grade each others' work as you can imagine, that led to occasional hurt feelings. We used to have a member who had strong religious views, and would automatically give low grades to any comic with bad language, nudity, excessive violence, etc. That lead to a few heated exchanges, and a couple of the members who were doing edgier material went off and formed their own splinter group. We all took the debate very seriously at the time, but now I can look back on it and laugh.

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Date: 2012-05-05 07:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If enough peolpe wrote fanfic about a particular body of work and wanted to publish it, would the work be rendered public domain since the creator hadn't made earlier efforts to halt the fanfic or at least place restrictions on it?

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Date: 2012-07-25 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
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Date: 2012-07-27 05:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
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Date: 2014-04-11 08:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh yeah, totally agree about the usual Heinlein cihnviuasm. I probably should have added that as a caveat, as that really kind of amazed me. Even this guy who was so set in sexist roles could see his way to some form of social truth. Yeah it's starting to sound like we have a lot in common! I kind of got that vibe reading your entries and your list of books. The end of Fear and Loathing completely slipped my mind until you mentioned it, so I'm guessing that speaks volumes about how I feel on the subject Total ohhhhh yeah moment. I mean, in a separate work it might have been good, but it was really out of place. I could see the point he was going for, though. Oh man. Black House. I just mmm. Okay first off, it has nothing to do with the Talisman, which was a huge disappointment. It's basically an annex to the Dark Tower series, which was a fantastic idea at the time, and I looked forward to how it all fit together, but King handwaving away all the connections at the last minute (don't get me started on that) made Black Tower completely irrelevant. So unless you're looking to get a little more of a peek behind the curtain of the Crimson King, which admittedly was kind of cool, I'd say skip it. I was so disappointed when I realized it wasn't a true sequel. Apparently he and Straub are still batting around the idea of a third book so not all hope is lost.Hah, I don't know, I find rewrites to be pretty much just as common, I just know a lot more about the character going in and can kind of anticipate where they might zig or zag and have something waiting at the other end rather than suffering from that whole well, what now?? thing. It's probably an individual taste thing, I imagine. I'm doing so much discovery of the plot that if I was still discovering a lot of the character it might be too much for me to handle.

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