alixtii: Player from <i>Where on Earth Is Carmen Sandiego?</i> playing the game. (Default)
People who follow this journal but not [livejournal.com profile] jennyo's needs to get over there and read this post. It's on what I've been calling monsters in this journal (and [livejournal.com profile] jennyo even uses that term herself): those characters who do some pretty major evil while willing good. For [livejournal.com profile] jennyo the archetypal monster is Laura Roslin; for me it is my fanon Dawn; in canon we see traits of monstrosity in Rupert Giles and full-blown monsterhood in Serenity's Operative.

[livejournal.com profile] jennyo just nails how these characters are at once exciting, alluring, and extremely scary--and God knows that in real life there is nothing more dangerous than someone who is certain that they are right and won't respect any limits on doing what they feel they need to do. The only difference, I suppose, is that in fiction we can be sure that our Mary Sues really are always right, at least in the moral order in which we read out of (or into) the text. But is this really all that separates a Roslin from an Operative? And what does that say (if anything) about real-world ethics? (And if ethics sometimes falls to the exigencies of a crisis, when is that crisis, and who draws the line? Some would claim we--meaning "the United States of America" or perhaps even "Western Civilization"--have already fallen into that sort of crisis.)

These are themes to which I constantly return in my fiction, particularly in my Watcher!verse!Dawn stories, and in my meta, and are ones about which I have been (if you haven't noticed) somewhat conflicted given my own political convictions.

How can I squee like crazy over the pure will-to-poweriness of a show like Commander-in-Chief, and yet at the same time agree 100% with the political reasoning in an article like this one ("Geena Davis Is Not My President"): "Geena Davis looks terrific, but we might do better with an awkward fat man"?

Using Roslin, [livejournal.com profile] jennyo explores the various implications of such a character in her most in-depth post on the subject yet as she notes that she "always find[s] it kind of surprising when people point out something incredibly wrong that Laura Roslin is doing and then wonder, 'she shouldn't be doing that, and why are we cheering her on?'." I'm tempted to provide some more quotes, but really I have to recommend that you read the whole thing.

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An article from the NYT on Google and its rôle in various legal battle arising from the way it manages the flow of information on the internet, including its acquisition of YouTube: We're Google. So Sue Us. My stance as usual is that information should be free (except where the equivalent of a flock is utilized, and even then . . .) and, whenever necessary, supported by advertising rather than charging the consumer directly.

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An article, this one from the LA Times, on Stephen Colbert and his effect on Congressional House races: Running for office? Better run from Colbert. (Hat tip to my brother.)

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*waits for Torchwood to download appear on the BBC3 station which just now magically appeared on my television?*
alixtii: Fred Burkle, wearing glasses, holding a book, and looking sort of shy. Text: "Desire." (desire)
This was recced to me by [livejournal.com profile] hjcallipygian, and now I'm reccing it to you: Harry Potter and the Eagle of Truthiness is a Harry Potter/Colbert Report crossover which perfectly captures Stephen Colbert's persona, complete with "The Wørd" as it transfers it to a Hogwarts DADA classroom.

And so I ask you: Albus Dumbledore, great Headmaster? Or the greatest Headmaster?

[Also, GIP.]
alixtii: Dawn Summers, w/ books and candles. Image from when Michelle hosted that ghost show. Text: "Dawn Summers / High Watcher. (Dawn)
So I was watching the rerun of last night's Colbert Report, and I saw this segment which fit in with some of my recent thoughts: Colbert v. Colbert ) Now, I don't buy that argument--I tend to side rather with these students. But my point isn't to bring up my politics so much as my ethics, although the two can't really be separated. I'm not going to be talking about President Bush in this post. I'm going to be talking about Dawn Summers and Rupert Giles.

The point is that I don't think it's morally permissable to set aside one's principles because of extrenuating circumstances. Doing so is tempting, as Colbert ably demonstrates using his Superman metaphor. If the only way to stop the world from ending is doing something morally reprehensible--for example, taking a life--isn't that necessary? Commendable, even?

Capt. Kirk Logic )

The twist is, what if the Huns at the gates aren't Islamofascists, but vampires and demons?

I remember reading someone recently complaining (in a review of Serenity, I think) that Joss Whedon's characters are never held accountable for their actions. ThI think they might have missed the point (I like that about his characters, and I'll explain more in a bit), but they are right, of course. Buffy's the Slayer, and as such as works behind the scenes, never being held answerable to Sunnydale's clueless (or in the case of the Mayor, evil) authorities. (Although, sometimes she does hold herself answerable to them.)

As I pointed out to [livejournal.com profile] hermionesviolin in the comments to A Watcher's Work, Dawn and Giles, while they run the Watcher's Council, are accountable to no one but themselves. There are no checks and balances to restrain their power. And this makes them very, very dangerous, especially since they allow themselves the freedom to utilize that power. Sure, they angst about it--I've written a good number of ficlets on the subject--but they still do it.

In her post on moral ambiguity, [livejournal.com profile] jennyo called Giles' (and President Laura Roslin's from Battlestar Galactica) moral paradigm "on the very outside edge of ambiguous, in that he is basically on the side of good, but is entirely capable of being not morally conflicted about doing evil or wrong in the cause of good. Like, it's the lightest shade of morally ambiguous: being willing not to go to heaven for the cause."

And this is basically a description of the Operative in Serenity. He, like them, has no illusions that what he does is evil. He is a monster. So are they. To continue to quote [livejournal.com profile] jennyo (who is still referring to Giles and Roslin), he "has humanity's back" but has "done scary shit to have humanity's back." He has Serenity spoiler ), but the difference between Serenity Spoiler ) and what Giles does to Ben in "The Gift" is merely a difference in degree, not quality.

Now I've said before that Dawn Summers is my Mary Sue. Certainly I return to the character again and again. How do I manage to see myself in a character whose paradigm I find morally repugnant. Or to look at it the other way, why have I given this moral paradigm to a character in whom I see myself, since when we finish canon Dawn isn't quite like this (although it is a plausible development)?

The Allure of Evil )

I can see my Dawn and Giles ordering the illegal wiretaps that Bush ordered. I can also see them ordering the Serenity spoiler ). I can see them giving the order for (what I call) Project Pandora, to cut into River's brain and make her an assassin. The fact that they could do these things and still believe in a more perfect society, that they were doing what they were doing to protect humans, that is what makes them endlessly fascinating to me.

But I don't particularly want to see them outside of my (and Joss's, and your) fiction. Because that's where monsters belong, in bedtime stories.

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